有一位来自美国北卡罗来纳州的黑人网友在reddit论坛上发了个帖子,主要写了他所在的当地黑人社区中,仅有少数人在此次大选时投了票,大部分他所熟知的黑人并没有参与此次大选。
目前这篇帖子已经被reddit锁定,没有办法进行回复和评论。
这位老哥在帖子中给出了6个原因去解释为什么会发生这样的事,我大致看了一下,基本可以归为3点。
第一点是这些黑人都认为,无论是哈里斯还是特朗普上台,他们的日子都会一如既往的糟糕。
1. LIFE IN POOR BLACK COMMUNITIES IS REMARKABLY CONSISTENT:
During Clintons presidency life was ass, during Bush's presidency life was ass, during Obamas presidency life as ass, during Trumps presidency life was ass, during Biden presidency life was ass, and we are convinced that no matter who won this election life would continue to be ass. We simply have nothing to lose and when America is doing well we do not get to partake in the gains.
As quality of life dropped in America our lives stayed the same while the average American began to live more and more like us. And as the average American got poorer they suddenly began to understsnd systemic inequality and the impact of generational wealth and poverty. Maybe Trumps reforms will be a good thing because as the cost of living rises more of America will wake tf up.
1. 贫穷的黑人社区的生活非常“统一”:
克林顿总统任期内的生活很糟糕,布什总统任期内的生活很糟糕,奥巴马总统任期内的生活很糟糕,特朗普总统任期内的生活很糟糕,拜登总统任期内的生活很糟糕,我们确信,无论谁赢得这次选举,生活都会继续很糟糕。我们的生活并不会因为美国发展良好而有所改善。
美国人的生活质量逐渐下降,我们(黑人群体)的生活虽然没有因此受到影响,但其他人的生活质量越来越向我们看齐了。随着普通美国人变得越来越穷,他们突然开始理解系统性不平等以及世代财富和贫困的影响。也许特朗普的改革会是一件好事,因为随着生活成本的上升,更多的美国人会醒悟过来。
第二点是因为价值观问题,当地的黑人大多都是保守派,当地有许多黑人女性强烈排斥堕胎和所有与 LGBTQ 有关的事情。当地的黑人会支持民主党,仅仅是因为经济原因,所以一些对改善自己的经济情况不再抱有希望的黑人,最终也选择不参与此次总统大选。
4. LOTS OF BLACK PEOPLE ARE SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE
Lots of black people are socially conservative and actually agree with a lot of republican social policy. I personally am not against LGBTQ+ or abortion but many of the black women in my life (who voted Kamala by the way) are heavily against abortion and all things LGBTQ. Black people support the dems despite their social beliefs for ECONOMIC REAONS ONLY, so the people who have already given up hope on their economic situation are not motivated to vote.
4. 许多黑人是社会保守派
许多黑人是社会保守派,实际上很多人都赞同共和党的社会政策。我个人并不反对 LGBTQ+ 或堕胎,但我认识的许多黑人女性(顺便说一句,她们投票给了哈里斯)强烈反对堕胎和所有与 LGBTQ 有关的事情。(以往)黑人支持民主党,并不是因为他们赞同民主党的社会政策,只是因为经济原因,所以那些已经对自己的经济状况放弃希望的人没有动力去投票。
第三点是他觉得当地的政府并不关心他们黑人群体的日子。民主党只将这些黑人群体视作票仓,虽然出台过一些帮扶政策,但对象往往都是少数天赋异禀的黑人,而不是整个黑人群体。
并且,黑人遭受的各种歧视问题,到现在都未解决。(原文中的Emitt Tilled指的是在1955年时被杀害的非裔美国人爱默特·路易斯·提尔,他在密西西比的亲属时与一名21岁的白人女子卡罗琳·布莱恩特聊了会儿天,几天后就被卡罗琳的丈夫罗伊和卡罗琳的弟弟绑架迫害,最终被抛尸于河中,他死后成为了民权运动的象征)
2. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DOES NOT CARE ABOUT US THEY JUST WANT OUR VOTES
When it comes to our communities the Democratic Party practices a principle of benign neglect. They say I'm listening, I hear you... Then do as little as possible for our community. The have simply taken our vote for granted and believe that it is owed to them.
The black men who do vote were overwhelmingly Kamala supporters but we had Obama already calling us mysoginists before the election... They do not care about us, our perspectives, or experiences we are simply a useful statistic. Many of us have actually begun to believe that voting so overwhelmingly democrat is part of the problem.
Why would the democrats actually try to help us if we are going to vote for them regardless? If our vote is always guaranteed then the democrats best strategy is to ignore us, focus on other issues, and shame/scare us into voting for them when it's time.
2. 民主党不关心我们,他们只想要我们的选票。
在我们的社区,民主党实行善意忽视的原则。他们说我在听,我听到了……然后尽可能少为我们的社区做事。他们只是将我们视为他们应得的选票,并对此深信不已。
投票的黑人绝大多数是哈里斯的支持者,但奥巴马在选举前就已经称我们为厌恶女性者……他们不关心我们的意见或经历,我们对他们而言只是一个有用的统计数字。我们中的许多人已经开始相信,如此压倒性地投票给民主党本身就是一个大问题。
如果我们无论如何都要投票给他们,民主党人又怎么会真正试图帮助我们呢?如果我们的选票总是会被保证投给民主党的话,那么民主党人最好的策略就是忽视我们,并在需要的时候羞辱或是吓唬我们,让我们投票给他们。
3. LOCAL DEMS HAVE BEEN PLAYING IN OUR FACES
When the Dems actually do things for our community it is rarely something that is truly transformative for the community. Rather what they do is create pathways for a few phenomenal black people to succeed. Their policies give us room to succeed as individuals but not as a group! But the thing is not everyone can be above average.
All the super smart black people get college scholarships but there are millions of us. Not all of us can be super smart and get a scholarship. To help the community and not just raise your select DEI tokens we need systemic change and they would never do that since it threatens the class system that puts those local dems at the top in the first place. I live in a heavily democratic area is shit is so rigged you would not believe it.
My freshman year of high school they even restricted people from taking AP classes based on neighborhood to rig school rankings (AP's at my high school were weighted +2 so an A in an AP was a 6). That has changed now but that is just one example of local dems giving lip serviced and then using their power to further rig the class system. We have seen this shit done in our face forever so no we don't belive the dems really want to help the community.
3. 当地的民主党一直在玩弄我们
当民主党真正为我们的社区做事时,他们的政策很少能真正改善社区。实际上,他们所做的是为少数杰出的黑人创造成功之路。他们的政策给了我们作为个人而不是作为一个群体取得成功。但问题是,并不是每个人都有异于常人的天赋。
所有超级聪明的黑人都能获得大学奖学金,但我们有数百万人,并不是所有人都能超级聪明并获得奖学金。政策应该是为了帮助社区,而不仅仅是提高您选择的DEI代币。我们需要系统性的变革,但他们永远不会这样做,因为这会威胁到当地民主党制定的阶级制度。我住在一个民主气息浓厚的地区,你根本无法相信,那里到底有多少事物被操纵。
我上高中一年级的时候,他们甚至会根据社区限制人们参加AP课程(美国大学先修课程,整个课程有22个门类、37个学科,课程为5分制,一般3分以上会被计算为大学学分,4分或是5分可以进名牌大学),好操纵学校排名(我高中的AP加权为+2,因此AP中的A评定是6分)。虽然现在的情况已经改善了,但这只是当地民主党人口头上的一套说辞,暗地里利用他们的权力进一步操纵阶级制度的一个例子。我们一直看到这种事情在我们面前发生,所以我们不相信民主党人真的想帮助社区。
5. DOWN HERE BLACK MENS LIVES DON'T MATTER
When the Black Lives Matter protest broke out we got to hear everyone and their momas opinion on the movement. The only demographic that did not get a chance to get a word in was the demographic most effected, BROKE BLACK MEN. As a veteran broke black man, here is what we were thinking: We appreciate the sentiment we really do, but we simply know that the our lives don't matter down here.
At no point in our lives were we ever allowed the delusion that our lives, safety, opinions, emotions, or general well being mattered as much as a white woman's. Growing up I was told that I should never be alone with a white woman since I would get Emitt Tilled. I was told that that in a 1v1 in court white women will win. Im 25 this was not long ago. In fact just recently my friend went on a tinder date with this liberal white girl and she accused him of dragging her 20 feet with her car.
This girl did not have a scratch on her she was just crazy but they still took it to court. The case was eventually thrown out due to how ridiculous it was but he spent thousands he did not have trying to defend himself. His lawyer, a white man, literally told him, "Your a black man she is a white woman you know how it is." And this is in a city that is OVERWHELMINGLY democrat. In short, as black men our lives do not matter under democrat or republican rule. We are not more scared now that at any other time in our lives.
5. 在这里,黑人的生活不重要
当“黑命贵”抗议活动爆发时,我们听到了每个人对这场运动的看法。
唯一没有机会发言的人群是受影响最大的人群,即破产的黑人男性。作为一名资深的破产黑人,我们的想法是:我们真的很感激大家为我们发声,但我们知道,在这里,我们的生命不重要。
在我们的生活中,我们从来没有想过,我们的生命、安全、观点、情感或总体幸福感,会和白人女性的生命、安全、观点、情感或总体幸福感同等重要。在我成长的过程中,我被告知,我永远不应该和白人女性单独相处,因为我会被 Emitt Tilled。我被告知,在法庭上一对一的较量中,白人女性会赢。我刚满25岁不久。事实上,就在最近,我的朋友和一位自由派白人女孩在Tinder上约会,结果她指控他开车拖着她走了20英尺。
这个女孩身上没有一丝划痕,她只是疯了,但他们还是把这件事告上了法庭。由于这件事太荒谬了,这个案子最终被驳回,但为了给自己辩护,我的朋友花了数千美元。他的律师是一名白人,那位律师直截了当地告诉他,“你是黑人,她是白人女性,你知道这是怎么回事。”而这座城市大部分都是民主党人。简而言之,作为黑人,我们的生活在民主党或共和党统治下都不重要。我们的社会地位已经不会变得更低了。
6. WE DO NOT LIKE HOW DEMS REPRESENT US IN ALL FORMS OF MEDIA
The democrats have been pushing representation in media for a while and yes representation is important but it is so painfully obvious that the people representing us often know NOTHING about black people. Often times we hate the black characters the libs give (Finn from Star Wars in a great example, no ni*** fucks with him). If I had a dollar for every pathetic ass black male character written by some white suburban millennial from California who doesn't even know what ashy knees are I be able to immigrate already.
Again we don't complain about this to much since I understand their hearts are in the right place but as far as we are concerned democrats representing us the way they do is not the favor they think it is. Rather it highlights the arrogance and ignorance towards our people. If western media had never before included black men in any way shape or form black men would probably be better off.
6. 我们不喜欢民主党在所有媒体形式中对我们的描述方式
民主党一直在推动改善黑人在媒体中的形象,这确实很重要,但很明显,那些代表我们黑人形象的人往往对黑人一无所知。很多时候,我们讨厌自由派赋予的黑人角色(《星球大战》中的芬恩就是一个很好的例子,不要跟黑鬼混)。如果我能因为出演那些出生在加州郊区,对灰膝盖是什么都搞不清的白人千禧一代笔下可怜的黑人男性角色,每出演一个赚一美元的话,我早就可以移民(离开美国)了。
当然,我们不会对此抱怨太多,因为我知道他们的心是好的,但就我们而言,民主党代表我们的方式并不像他们想的那般美好。相反,它凸显了对我们黑人的傲慢和无知。如果西方媒体从未以任何形式报道过黑人,黑人可能会过得更好。
《纽约时报》曾在10月24日的时候就发过一篇文章,文章作者通过《纽约时报》的民意调查报告的数据,分析了为何在此次大选中,特朗普能够获得部分黑人以及西班牙裔选民的支持。
据文章中列出的数据,在这次的民意调查中,有78%的黑人受访者,以及56%的西班牙裔受访者支持哈里斯。虽然在人数上哈里斯大幅领先特朗普,但对比拜登在2020年时92%黑人支持率以及63%西班牙裔支持率,这个优势似乎也没有那么的大。
根据这篇文章的说法,除了许多年轻的黑人以及西班牙裔选民觉得特朗普比哈里斯“更有趣”这种比较主观的原因以外,很多黑人和西班牙裔选民都对特朗普的“美国优先”政策产生了共鸣,认为美国应该将注意力更多的放在本国问题上。
• 大约40%的黑人选民和43%的西语裔选民说,他们支持在南部边境建墙。同样,45%的西语裔选民和41%的黑人选民说,他们支持驱逐无证移民。
• 一半的西语裔选民和将近一半——47%——的黑人选民说,大城市的犯罪是一个大问题,已经处于失控状态。这和白人选民中持这一观点的比例(50%)基本相同。
对特朗普的支持不仅限于种族和移民相关的问题。多数黑人和西语裔选民似乎认同他的“美国优先”外交政策,认为美国应该少关注海外,把注意力集中在本国问题上。以往的时报/锡耶纳调查曾发现,有相当一部分黑人和西语裔选民在贸易问题上也认同特朗普。
换句话说:特朗普的核心民粹主义、保守主义宣讲,在相当一部分黑人和西语裔选民中引起了不小的共鸣。
该文章还认为,经济问题也是黑人和西班牙裔选民支持特朗普的原因,根据调查,只有20%的西语裔选民和26%的黑人选民认为目前的经济状况良好或非常好。这两个群体中都有超过一半的人表示,为了节约开支,他们必须“经常”削减食品杂货开支。
只有20%的西语裔选民和26%的黑人选民认为目前的经济状况良好或非常好。这两个群体中都有超过一半的人表示,由于成本原因,他们在过去一年中“经常”削减食品杂货开支。这对经济上处于弱势地位的选民很重要,尤其是那些以前认为民主党代表了自己的经济利益,于是投票给它的人。
总体而言,当被问及今年11月最能决定他们投票的因素时,黑人和西语裔选民提到最多的是经济问题。作为知名的亿万富翁商人,特朗普在这个问题上一直有优势,无论是对希拉里·克林顿还是对拜登。
现在,特朗普再次参选之际,选民对经济的不满程度比以往任何时候都高,许多人回顾特朗普的总统任期时,认为那是一个繁荣与和平的时期。在将经济视为投票最重要因素的黑人选民中,贺锦丽以69比25领先;在认为经济因素最重要的西语裔选民中,特朗普以61比35领先。